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  1. Lancing Steel 3.11
  2. Lancing Steel 3.10

The Elite Four in HeartGold & SoulSilver are positioned within the Indigo Plateau in Kanto. However, despite their positioning, you need to get all 8 Johto gym badges in order to access them. Once you have the 8 badges, you face a decent challenge.

Elite Four Member #1 - Will

Specialty Type: Psychic

The first Elite Four member you will battle is the new Elite Four member Will. He is a Psychic trainer so Dark and Bug type Pokémon would be the most logical choice here.

WillXatu
Lv. 40
Jynx
Lv. 41
Exeggutor
Lv. 41
Slowbro
Lv. 41
Xatu
Lv. 42

Lancing steel for numbers comparison is 79.8% base damage, 4 proj, only main projectile impales (others are 20% chance). Most dmg is probably gonna be Deadeye or Pathfinder although Champion comes in as a close second and Jugg should also be fine. Jugg obviously pulls ahead in the defense department, while Champion lacks behind a bit. 3.12 Lancing steel Paradoxica/Saviour Champion Duelist - Mainskill: Lancing Steel - created by oggge 3.12SlapGod's Earthshatter guide - EZ Tropical Island Deli, one shot bosses, tank 1 PoB.


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Elite Four Member #2 - Koga

Specialty Type: Poison

The second elite four member you will face is the former gym leader of Fuchsia City; Koga. Koga keeps several of his Pokémon from FireRed & LeafGreen as well as some new ones and they're mostly of the Poison type.

KogaAriados
Lv. 40
Venomoth
Lv. 41
Forretress
Lv. 43
Muk
Lv. 42
Crobat
Lv. 44


Lancing Steel 3.11

Elite Four Member #3 - Bruno

Specialty Type: Fighting

The third elite four member you will face is the only Elite Four member remaining from FireRed & LeafGreen. This trainer is Bruno and he keeps many of his FireRed & LeafGreen Pokémon. They're of the Fighting type so a Flying or Psychic type Pokémon would be logical.

BrunoHitmontop
Lv. 42
Hitmonlee
Lv. 42
Hitmonchan
Lv. 42
Onix
Lv. 43
Machamp
Lv. 46


Elite Four Member #4 - Karen

Specialty Type: Dark

The final elite four member you will face is the another new member. This member, Karen, bases her team on the Dark type and features Pokémon that could be seen as Dark type. As such, your strategy has to adapt to it

KarenUmbreon
Lv. 42
Vileplume
Lv. 42
Gengar
Lv. 45
Murkrow
Lv. 44
Houndoom
Lv. 47


Champion - Lance

Specialty Type: Dragon

Finally, you battle the Champion of the league; Lance. Having seen him and battled alongside him, you know he has strong Pokémon on his side. His team is Dragon-centric so Ice Pokémon are a logical choice here as well as Electric Pokémon for his other Pokémon

LanceGyarados
Lv. 44
Dragonite
Lv. 49
Dragonite
Lv. 49
Aerodactyl
Lv. 48
Charizard
Lv. 48
Dragonite
Lv. 50


After you have obtained the eight badges of Kanto, you have the ability to fight the Elite Four again. However, this time, their Pokémon have levelled up and they even have some new surprises.

Elite Four Member #1 - Will

Specialty Type: Psychic

The first Elite Four member you will battle is the new Elite Four member Will. He is a Psychic trainer so Dark and Bug type Pokémon would be the most logical choice here.

WillBronzong
Lv. 58
Jynx
Lv. 60
Grumpig
Lv. 59
Slowbro
Lv. 60
Gardevoir
Lv. 61
Xatu
Lv. 62

Lancing Steel 3.10


Elite Four Member #2 - Koga

Specialty Type: Poison

The second elite four member you will face is the former gym leader of Fuchsia City; Koga. Koga keeps several of his Pokémon from FireRed & LeafGreen as well as some new ones and they're mostly of the Poison type.

KogaSkuntank
Lv. 61
Toxicroak
Lv. 60
Swalot
Lv. 62
Venomoth
Lv. 63
Muk
Lv. 62
Crobat
Lv. 64


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Elite Four Member #3 - Bruno

Specialty Type: Fighting

The third elite four member you will face is the only Elite Four member remaining from FireRed & LeafGreen. This trainer is Bruno and he keeps many of his FireRed & LeafGreen Pokémon. They're of the Fighting type so a Flying or Psychic type Pokémon would be logical.

BrunoHitmontop
Lv. 62
Hitmonlee
Lv. 61
Hariyama
Lv. 62
Machamp
Lv. 64
Lucario
Lv. 64
Hitmonchan
Lv. 61


Elite Four Member #4 - Karen

Specialty Type: Dark

The final elite four member you will face is the another new member. This member, Karen, bases her team on the Dark type and features Pokémon that could be seen as Dark type. As such, your strategy has to adapt to it

KarenWeavile
Lv. 62
Spiritomb
Lv. 62
Honchkrow
Lv. 64
Umbreon
Lv. 64
Houndoom
Lv. 63
Absol
Lv. 63


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Champion - Lance

Specialty Type: Dragon

Finally, you battle the Champion of the league; Lance. Having seen him and battled alongside him, you know he has strong Pokémon on his side. His team is Dragon-centric so Ice Pokémon are a logical choice here as well as Electric Pokémon for his other Pokémon The last airbender full movie.

LanceSalamence
Lv. 72
Garchomp
Lv. 72
Dragonite
Lv. 75
Charizard
Lv. 68
Altaria
Lv. 73
Gyarados
Lv. 68


To compare with the closes thing we have available, Spectral Throw, it has lower damage effectiveness, about the same mana cost and 4 more projectiles. A bit bummed out by what the quality gives, but it might work.
I was hyped, but I don't know. Guess I'll have to wait for the PoB update now, but as he's hired by GGG. he might have better things to do :P
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Posted by
Phrazz
on Dec 6, 2018, 12:29:50 AM
PoB will be quick. Its already updated with the new passives.
Posted by
Thror2k5
on Dec 6, 2018, 12:30:33 AM
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PoB will be quick. Its already updated with the new passives.

Sweet music to my ears.
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Posted by
Phrazz
on Dec 6, 2018, 12:31:17 AM
I always try a new skill out though, so I'll give one of these 'steel' things a chance.
Posted by
Shagsbeard
on Dec 6, 2018, 12:35:12 AM
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I always try a new skill out though, so I'll give one of these 'steel' things a chance.

Me too, but I doubt it will be my starter. Winter Orb CwC Artic Breath + Cold Snap and Taryn's Shiver is tempting me too.
Phrazz has changed his ways. Forget his past, embrace the present.
Posted by
Phrazz
on Dec 6, 2018, 12:39:17 AM
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Arctic Breath's rework might make it less than idea for CWC, Phrazz. Since it's now a solid AoE DoT, you don't really need to be spamming it. Not saying don't do it, just something for you to consider.
As for Lancing Steel, well, you know me and non-melee melee-weapon attack skills. Spectral Throw came first and it seems to me TencentGGG aren't going to really surpass it in a hurry. The innate piercing and ability to multi-hit inherent to Spec Throw is good stuff. Lancing Steel just looks..clunky, I guess. Is there room for a straight-line, non-piercing ranged weapon attack in a game with skills that can cover most of the screen?
Shattering Steel, OTOH, I reckon might be quite popular. Built-in AoE at not one phase but two.

I think Lancing Steel looks way better than Shattering Steel. Anyhow, the 'straight line' isn't really a straight line, as you control the spread of the projectiles like you do with most projectile based skills. I find the skill intriguing.
When it comes to Arctic breath, CwC isn't really 'spammy', as the minimum cooldown you can get, is 0.35. So we're talking less than 3 casts a second, which should be sufficient with regards to how AB works. And I think it will work OK when if I find a way to get the most out of Bonechill.
I was thinking about a pure DoT cold character, but unless they've buffed Vortex' AoE, I have to supply other cold skills.
Phrazz has changed his ways. Forget his past, embrace the present.
Posted by
Phrazz
on Dec 6, 2018, 1:08:57 AM
I think i will make a Lancing Steel DW Champion with Dreadbanner for the Impale effect. Even if i'm normally not a fan of these melee weapon 'ranged' attacks(fixing melee by making it ranged^^) i want to give it a shot because i like blademancer attacker style.
Not sure tho how its base clearing ability will be, so pierce will probably be a must for this skill.
Anyway i think it is good, that the skill is seemingly not busted from the very beginning like some other newly released skills were. Buffing skills later on is easy, nerfing them with this community isn't^^
Who knows, if it underperforms they might give it an early buff.
The Bestiary league proved once and for all, that GGG only listens to crying instead of well thought out criticism.
Posted by
Temeritas
on Dec 6, 2018, 1:16:08 AM
lancing steel should prove better than spectral throw. you can hit a target more than once with lancing steels projectiles, so if you have a source of more projectiles than it should be much better
could be an interesting skill but i wish we could use multistrike with it. i'll definitely try it out but i probably won't give a flying frogs fart about impale as pure phys damage is just laughable at this point.
Posted by
xMustard
on Dec 6, 2018, 3:56:26 AM
well the projectiles are created to your side like volley, but they can shoot inwards towards a single target similar to barrage, making a triangle shape.
i doubt all projectiles can hit a single target, but certainly more than one. if they can't, this skill is garbage and might as well just use spectral throw lol
Posted by
xMustard
on Dec 6, 2018, 4:19:17 AM
It specifies the extra projectiles come afterwards, so at least two should be able to hit the same target. From what im getting from it, its essentially the nowbow version of barrage with a built in debuff. It has a much better damage effectiveness than barrage as well.
Watching the video of it, it does seem like the projectiles come staggered.
Last edited by tramshed on Dec 6, 2018, 5:09:51 AM
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tramshed
on Dec 6, 2018, 5:08:02 AM

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